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[讨论] comodo和av-c的邮件翻译---终于知道矛盾在哪里了

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发表于 2011-11-28 14:01:35 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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comodo在avc的单品测试中获得了不错的成绩,但是为了少交500欧元(2000-1500),comodo要求不公开成绩,然后av-c回复comodo,av-c即将公开成绩,如果comodo要求不公开成绩,av-c会注明,comodo参加了单品测试,但是要求不公开成绩

然后,comodo就认为av-c是在勒索自己

我个人认为这个是comodo的误解,因为av-c一直都是在这样做,看看回溯性测试就知道,av-c直接注明哪些厂商拒绝参加回溯性测试或者要求不公开成绩,所以回溯性测试缺少他们的名字


1、9 Jan 2010 ,av-c邀请comodo参加av-c主体测试,费用8000欧元,而且名额有限,请下周前回复
    这里同时说明了单品测试的费用,2000左右

Subject:        AV-Comparatives Test-Series
Date:        Sat, 9 Jan 2010 20:16:21 +0100
From:        Peter Stelzhammer <p @av-comparatives.org>
Reply-To:        p @av-comparatives.org
To:        u@comodo.com
CC:        Andreas Clementi <a@av-comparatives.org>
Dear Umesh,

first, thanks for your mail. I want to clarify, that this E-Mail is confidential.

The Main Test-Series costs 8000 Euro per year. 2 On Demand, 2 Retrospective, a some Bonus Tests like Removal, Performance  and so on. The extended Yearly test-series including whole product dynamic testing is more expensive.  We can talk about this later.

As we write on our website, we try to include only very well  scoring AV products.

We suggest Comodo to get tested first in a Single Product Test, which is cheaper and would not expose Comodo too much in case of low results. A normal single product test/review costs usually 2000 Euro (depending from requested methodology). If you want us we will publish the results, but if not, we will keep the test confidential.

As the number of participants is limited and there are already over 30 vendors which want to take part, please let us know within next week about your decision wether you want to participate or not, in order that we can start choosing the participants.

Schöne Grüsse / Regards

Peter
AV-Comparatives

2、 11 Jan 2010 ,av-c向comodo介绍单品测试的详细收费情况,不公开成绩1500欧元,公开成绩2000欧元
we could do the single product test in february (with the new testset). It will be an On-Demand with False Positive Test. Start will be around the 5th. Feb. Release mid of March. (If you will keep the report internal, it is Euro 1500, if you want to use it in marketing and we shall publish it – with short review of product – on our website it is as told Euro 2000.



接下来的几份邮件是关于测试中comodo设置什么的,略过




3、1/31/2011 av-c回复,2011年主体测试的申请期限已经过了(这个是回复comodo突然表示希望参加主体测试的)
I am afraid, but Comodo did not apply for the main test-series of

>>>> 2011 and the deadline (as announced on our website for nearly 2

>>>> months) for applying to the tests expired already some time ago.

4、2/3/2011,comodo希望参加动态测试的单品测试

>> Yes please include us for Single product test.

>> Regarding whole product test, we can discuss further if there is

>> going to be any scope of it in future.

>> Egemen is going to be in AMTSO and i think we can have a face to face


5、2/3/2011,av-c回信,确定comodo将参加手动扫描测试的单品测试,费用2000

comodo的沙箱和av-c的自动测试系统有兼容性问题,无法进行动态测试



cool to hear you again. As promised we can test you in our on-demand

>>> test separately in a Single Product Test. Fee is Euro 2000. The test

>>> will start on 17th of Feb. 2011.


About the whole product test, we would like to see you in, but, and

>>> this is an official statement, which you can post in your blog, your

>>> product with the current sandbox and the current way it is working,

>>> is not compatible with our automation system and as your sandbox

>>> does restrict often also the functionality of clean applications, we

>>> do not see it fit in our test system right now. So it is not

>>> possible to put you in a single whole product test, in the main test



In past you have done single product review in parallel with main

>>> test, we are seeking similar test again for Feb-2011 In addition to

>>> that we have been in discussion with Peter over phone and we had

>>> impression that we were in as we requested earlier for single

>>> product review and answer was possible with next main test.
Do you see any possibility to include Comodo in it?

6、 April 11, 2011 av-c告诉comodo测试即将完成,并且给了comodo成绩预览

we have the test and the analysing done. We have to fix some minor things. I expect releasing tomorrow, as Andreas is sitting in the plane right now. He will finish it soon.

Here is a confidential preview of your results, I do not expect changes.

7、 April 11, 2011 av-c告诉comodo,单品测试成绩很好,和其他知名安全软件成绩差不多
btw, do not be unhappy about the „other malware/viruses“ %s, you will see in the report that also other vendors score low there (mainly because that category contains non-PE malware). Furthermore, your ~90% is higher than what some few other products scored and similar to what other well-known products reached. You will see


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嵩弦离合
发表于 2011-11-28 14:19:53 | 显示全部楼层
额,这个必须翻译器翻译才行了,太长的英文看了头痛啊
剑步如飞
发表于 2011-11-28 14:35:00 | 显示全部楼层
那以后Comodo还是别参加了
tecroy 该用户已被删除
发表于 2011-11-28 14:40:27 | 显示全部楼层
官方往来邮件你都有?
z13667152750
 楼主| 发表于 2011-11-28 14:40:57 | 显示全部楼层
tecroy 发表于 2011-11-28 14:40
官方往来邮件你都有?

comodo自己公开的
dfr1986
发表于 2011-11-28 14:43:00 | 显示全部楼层
500欧元,comodo也太小气了。给!
yestersummer
发表于 2011-11-28 14:52:30 | 显示全部楼层
楼主大才啊!这都挖到了!
guidanba
发表于 2011-11-28 14:54:34 | 显示全部楼层
小气的comodo,
maomao110
发表于 2011-11-28 15:31:47 | 显示全部楼层
这新闻有意思
tecroy 该用户已被删除
发表于 2011-11-28 15:35:37 | 显示全部楼层
z13667152750 发表于 2011-11-28 14:40
comodo自己公开的

E文看不懂,毛豆官方真的认为avc勒索罪名成立?
如果真是那样的话毛豆也太没风范了吧,非盈利组织啊。
会不是限于调侃,开玩笑的?
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