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[讨论] 刚才无聊爬网页的时候,发现的一些关于毛豆的信息,挺有意思......

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波纹寂寞
发表于 2014-9-5 15:52:37 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
刚爬网页的时候,在http://bbs.kafan.cn/thread-1757302-4-1.html看到毛豆8的消息,心痒难耐啊。揣着半吊子的英语水平到毛豆的官方论坛和毛豆的facebook,GOOGLE+都逛了一圈,沮丧的是没找到毛豆8的测试安装信息(仅在facebook上问了问大家对毛豆8的期望)。不过期间发现了一点小东东,供大家娱乐:
首先是这个(https://blogs.comodo.com/pc-secu ... still-tops-years%2F):
Matousec: Comodo’s Security Still Tops After All These Years
July 15, 2014         | By Kevin Judge
    We are now more than half way through 2014 and Comodo finds itself in a familiar place in the ongoing Proactive Internet Challenge, conducted by Matousec.com. As has been the case for almost 2 ½ years, Comodo Internet Security tops there results chart of 38 Internet Security suites tested by Matousec. (See below)
   Matousec is an independent project run by security experts dedicated to improving end user security and their web site is a “go to” site for IT pros.  They not only do testing and research, they have worked with vendors to introduced innovative Internet security solutions.
   One of the most interesting projects that Matousec engages in is called the Matousec Proactive Internet Security Challenge 64.  It is an ongoing test of 38 internet security suites for Microsoft Windows computers.  Each of the 38 have been tested within the past 6 months.
   The tests are organized into a series of increasingly difficult levels to pass.  The software must pass one level to proceed to the next.
   Comodo was only one of two suites to receive a rating of “Excellent” and only one of three products that Matousec rated as “Recommended”!
You might notice that there are some big names not in the top 5, such as Symantec’s Norton and McAfee. They were in the contest, but appear much further down in the rankings. Unlike a contest like the Super Bowl, this is not a one day event. Like the threat from hackers and cyber criminals, this is a contest that has no end in sight. The top products will have to continue to improve to meet the challenge and retain their positions.
  

   咬牙翻译了一下,大家随便看看
Matousec:这些年来,我们依然的王者——COMODO  
   蓦然回首,我们已经来到了2014的中点,发现COMODO依然处在我们防御测试项目熟悉的位置——至此刻回溯2.5年的时间,COMODO internet Security在我们测试项目的38款互联网安全产品中排名第一(见下图)。
   Matousec是一个独立的项目,是由专业的专家专注于提高最终用户安全产品性能,以及IT人员们的网站安全评估。Matousec不仅仅做安全产品的测试和研究,还同安全厂商致力于推广互联网安全解决方案。
   我们做的事情中一件最有趣的项目是一种叫做Matousec互联网安全主动防御挑战,它是在Window系统中对38种互联网安全产品进行测试,在过去的6个月里,每一种安全产品都进行了测试。
    这种测试是放在一个严谨的,并且难度越来越大的测试环境中进行,这些安全产品必须逐一通过测试设定中的每一项目。
    COMODO是所有这些产品中仅有的两个获得“优异”评价的安全套件之一;也是所有这些产品中获得Matousec“推荐使用”的三种安全产品之一。
    你有可能发现了一些大名鼎鼎的安全产品没有在前5名,譬如说赛门铁克的诺顿安全套装以及麦咖啡。事实是他们的确参与了测试,但是成绩在很不好的水准里。互联网安全不像我们的“超级碗”比赛,这不是一天就能做好的事情,面对来自黑客和网络犯罪的危险,我们在进行着一场至今没有终点视线的比赛。顶级产品将不得不继续改善以迎接挑战,去争取他们在安全领域的位置。

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波纹寂寞
 楼主| 发表于 2014-9-5 16:02:33 | 显示全部楼层
当时看完心中那叫高兴啊,毕竟单奔毛豆5年,感情那是杠杠的。想找找Matousec的原帖,结果找到了这个:http://malwaretips.com/threads/matousec-com-right-or-wrong.26999/
这里的楼主也是有疑问,说Matousec的这个测试毛豆那么好,其他那些譬如Panda啊,ESET啊那么差,如果你同意这个测试,还会喜欢,选择他们吗?
然后3楼和5楼就有话讲了:
3楼的Littlebits:
Go to Wilder's security forum and search for "matousec.com". You will find that their testing methodology has been discredited many times.
Some of the most common reasons:
1. They test in levels, if a product fails to pass one level then it is not allowed to continue to the next level of testing even though it could pass the next level.
2. Their tests is not a firewall test at all, they don't even tests many network protocols, ports, etc. They test only full advanced HIPS features. So if a products doesn't have full HIPS features included, they give that product a low score even though it could have excellent firewall network control.
3. The Security Software Testing Suite used in their testing contains mostly methods that are no longer used by most malware today, so even if a product get top score, it really doesn't mean much.
4. Many users believe that Comodo secretly owns matousec.com and uses it to advertise their own product. Awhile back many years ago, matousec.com announced that they were bought by another company. The new company was unknown and hide its registrant with Proxies because nobody could find out who really bought it. You can click- here and see they still hide their ownership using Whois Protection Guard. Before they announced that they were bought, the Whois info was available to the public. Matousec.com was bought right after the fact of their last test where Comodo took 3rd place below PC Tools Firewall and Online Armor. After the buyout Comodo has been on top every since.
5. The Online Armor controversy- TallEmu was the owner and original developer of Online Armor before he sold it to Emsisoft. Somehow TallEmu and matousec.com (under new ownership after it was sold) got into a disagreement about payments for testing. Online Armor had got top score twice in a roll and PC Tools Firewall also got better scores on previous tests compared to Comodo, but now PC Tools was getting discontinued and the only competitor left was Online Armor. The disagreement did not get settled between TallEmu and matousec.com, so they removed all previous tests that showed that Online Armor had got better scores than Comodo twice in a roll. This happened right after Emsisoft bought Online Armor and it was not the responsibility of Emsisoft to pay the testing fees. Never the less all tests by matousec.com completely removed all references to Online Armor (even the ones that were paid for). Online Armor is still not available on their testing. Some users see this as a way Comodo got rid of their only competitor that could beat them on these tests.

There is even much more to find I'm not going to list everything or I would have to write a book, search on Wilder's Security Forum.
Lets say you probably will never see another product besides Comodo get top honors on their testing results unless matousec.com changes ownership.

Enjoy!! :D

5楼的Umbra Polaris:
Matousec is not trustworthy because if a vendor fail a test , Matousec contact the vendor and offer a new one in exchange of a fee (aka $$$$).
Then if the vendor agree, they redo the test, the trick is that the vendor analyze the failed test , fix the holes , pay for the new test (of course successful this time) and publish it.

btw, matousec test HIPS modules not really the Firewall.

大体意思就是这个测试水分很大:1,Matousec.com这个测试机构和毛豆有基情;2,这个测试结果在未发表前可以用钱解决。

唉,看完心头不知所谓啊。不过,依然支持毛豆,当然还有OP。
chncwk
发表于 2014-9-6 21:44:10 | 显示全部楼层
呵呵,总是第一名肯定不正常,这个用脚趾头想都清楚。
只是你喜欢毛豆的话自然愿意顺水推舟的结论了。
空羽
发表于 2014-9-8 12:32:15 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
我只想知道8.0什么时候出
yexo
发表于 2014-9-8 12:41:56 | 显示全部楼层
原来是这样啊,怪不得 Comodo 多年第一名  哎,OA 和 PC Tools 可惜了
♂触碰※灵魂㊣
发表于 2014-9-8 17:55:37 | 显示全部楼层
yexo 发表于 2014-9-8 12:41
原来是这样啊,怪不得 Comodo 多年第一名  哎,OA 和 PC Tools 可惜了

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