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[一般话题] Disable Your Antivirus Software (Except Microsoft's)

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ELOHIM
发表于 2019-10-17 17:08:37 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
本帖最后由 ELOHIM 于 2019-10-17 17:12 编辑

Thursday, 26 January 2017
         
       Disable Your Antivirus Software (Except Microsoft's)

I was just reading some Tweets and an associated Hackernews thread and it reminded me that, now that I've left Mozilla for a while, it's safe for me to say: antivirus software vendors are terrible; don't buy antivirus software, and uininstall it if you already have it (except, on Windows, for Microsoft's).
Update (Perhaps it should go without saying --- but you also need to your OS to be up-to-date. If you're on Windows 7 or, God forbid, Windows XP, third party AV software might make you slightly less doomed.)
At best, there is negligible evidence that major non-MS AV products give a net improvement in security. More likely, they hurt security significantly; for example, see bugs in AV products listed in Google's Project Zero. These bugs indicate that not only do these products open many attack vectors, but in general their developers do not follow standard security practices. (Microsoft, on the other hand, is generally competent.)
Furthermore, as Justin Schuh pointed out in that Twitter thread, AV products poison the software ecosystem because their invasive and poorly-implemented code makes it difficult for browser vendors and other developers to improve their own security. For example, back when we first made sure ASLR was working for Firefox on Windows, many AV vendors broke it by injecting their own ASLR-disabled DLLs into our processes. Several times AV software blocked Firefox updates, making it impossible for users to receive important security fixes. Major amounts of developer time are soaked up dealing with AV-induced breakage, time that could be spent making actual improvements in security (recent-ish example).
What's really insidious is that it's hard for software vendors to speak out about these problems because they need cooperation from the AV vendors (except for Google, lately, maybe). Users have been fooled into associating AV vendors with security and you don't want AV vendors bad-mouthing your product. AV software is broadly installed and when it breaks your product, you need the cooperation of AV vendors to fix it. (You can't tell users to turn off AV software because if anything bad were to happen that the AV software might have prevented, you'll catch the blame.) When your product crashes on startup due to AV interference, users blame your product, not AV. Worse still, if they make your product incredibly slow and bloated, users just think that's how your product is.
If a rogue developer is tempted to speak out, the PR hammer comes down (and they were probably right to do so!). But now I'm free! Bwahahaha!


Posted by Robert at 18:13
Labels : Mozilla


虽然是一篇来自于2017年的老贴,但是对于某些小白甚至开发人员来讲,指导意义还是很明确的。

也希望安软开发商可以开发出更加合理、优秀的产品。
更多的话,留给时间和你们。

原文链接:https://robert.ocallahan.org/201 ... oftware-except.html



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evans168
发表于 2019-10-20 11:16:13 | 显示全部楼层
再度回到 WD 的懷抱...

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ELOHIM
 楼主| 发表于 2019-10-20 17:18:52 | 显示全部楼层
evans168 发表于 2019-10-20 11:16
再度回到 WD 的懷抱...

不用诺了?fs呢?
我正准备试试这俩软件呢。
evans168
发表于 2019-10-20 20:14:47 | 显示全部楼层
ELOHIM 发表于 2019-10-20 17:18
不用诺了?fs呢?
我正准备试试这俩软件呢。

上述殺軟都不錯!! 不過你的網路連線得一路暢通才行...
ELOHIM
 楼主| 发表于 2019-10-20 21:00:18 | 显示全部楼层
evans168 发表于 2019-10-20 20:14
上述殺軟都不錯!! 不過你的網路連線得一路暢通才行...

我连接部分网站载速很快。就是不知道诺的更新行不行。。。。。。。
evans168
发表于 2019-10-20 21:51:02 | 显示全部楼层
ELOHIM 发表于 2019-10-20 21:00
我连接部分网站载速很快。就是不知道诺的更新行不行。。。。。。。

兩個都試試看吧!! 你的 WD 連線如果穩定, 那就可以大膽放心的使用...
ELOHIM
 楼主| 发表于 2019-10-20 21:55:14 | 显示全部楼层
evans168 发表于 2019-10-20 21:51
兩個都試試看吧!! 你的 WD 連線如果穩定, 那就可以大膽放心的使用...

好的e神。。
evans168
发表于 2019-10-20 22:18:29 | 显示全部楼层

e神? 神經的神嗎?
別亂叫...乖!!
evans168
发表于 2019-10-20 22:21:19 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 evans168 于 2019-10-20 22:39 编辑

基本上現在的防毒軟體都很依賴雲殺, 所以網路能夠穩定連線真的很重要!!
論壇上一堆人在抱怨殺軟偵測很糟糕, 絕大部分都是網路連線問題造成的結果...
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