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The EQs
发表于 2007-4-29 05:00:37 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
HEURISTIC TESTS – RIGHT OR WRONG?
So, is it wrong to test a scanner’s ability to detect
heuristically? Of course not, if it’s done competently. Was
this a competent test? Well, we don’t really know. Only the
barest bones of their methodology has been published.
Since these people are working outside the AV research
community – which is far more collaborative than anyone
outside it will ever believe – we really don’t know whether
they know any more about this specialist area than the
average end user.
Back in the days when I was less easily depressed, I tracked
some of the ‘tests’ that were circulating at that time. Testers
were using collections of alleged viruses found on ‘vx’
websites. These were known to contain large numbers of
garbage files such as random text files, snippets of source
code, intendeds (viruses that couldn’t actually replicate, and
therefore weren’t viruses), corrupted viruses that couldn’t
work, programs generated by virus generators which may or
may not have been viable viruses, the infamous Rosenthal
utilities, and (my particular favourite) ‘virus-like’ programs
(I’ve often wondered what that meant). Even then, testers
were trying to test a scanner’s heuristic ability by generating
‘variants’. Inserting snippets of virus code at random places
in a test file. Patching presumed infected files in random
places. Changing text strings found in virus bodies on the
assumption that that was what scanners were looking for.
mofunzone
发表于 2007-4-29 05:19:11 | 显示全部楼层
对vb的人无语,只会从wl拿过期样本测试的机构也就这样了,avc的所有样本都是经过检测的,对vb的无知感到惊讶,heuristic的目的当然不是检测变种这么简单,而是检测未知病毒,不过对于vb这种连trojan都没有的机构,又怎么会理解什么叫virus-like的文件呢
vb对病毒的定义看来就是viruses that can actually replicate了,除了蠕虫,还有病毒具有这种特性吗?
无视vb100%
vb100%=vain bullshit 100%

[ 本帖最后由 mofunzone 于 2007-4-28 13:22 编辑 ]
The EQs
 楼主| 发表于 2007-4-29 06:50:08 | 显示全部楼层
对LS的才是无语。。。。有空去看看Panda的评论吧。。。。他们一贯都是采取要求检测样本的有效性
mofunzone
发表于 2007-4-29 06:51:53 | 显示全部楼层
http://bbs.kafan.cn/viewthread.p ... hlight=%2Bmofunzone
自己看看文档中avc是怎么看待itw系列的评测吧
solcroft
发表于 2007-4-29 07:07:31 | 显示全部楼层
VB只能说搞笑得不能再搞笑了
自己以想象力打造出来一个不权威的评测方法,然后慢慢批评这个假设的评测为什么不权威
不知道他们是不是以为这样做便能哄别人来相信他们自己的评测方法才是最权威的,以五十步笑百步的做法来抬高自己的身份
其实现在的主流杀软评测机构的测试手段,个个都比早就过时了的VB更具代表性了
坐在墙头
发表于 2007-4-29 07:15:00 | 显示全部楼层
飘过 ,其他想说的就不说了
ykz1991
发表于 2007-4-29 08:11:45 | 显示全部楼层
每次看EQ的帖子都得开词霸~~~
andyangela
发表于 2007-4-29 08:50:33 | 显示全部楼层
不知道为啥上面的说vb是自己假设的一个测试方法,呵呵
solcroft
发表于 2007-4-29 09:42:20 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 andyangela 于 2007-4-29 10:20 发表
不知道为啥上面的说vb是自己假设的一个测试方法,呵呵

很简单,文章的标题是“HEURISTIC TESTS – RIGHT OR WRONG?”启发式测试 – 对或不对?
只可惜文章的内容牛头不对马嘴,都只是在数落一些不科学的评测方法
这些话说了等于白说,就算用屁股想都能知道这些是多么可笑的测试方法,VB拿这些来大做文章,只能说有如一个稍有点皮毛学问的人以卖弄玄虚,嘲笑愚民来抬高自己的身份。要把启发式测试搞好,自然有其科学的方法,其他各主流评测机构的参考价值早就超越了VB,VB这个时候才出来发这种文章,实在可笑

还有另外就是转贴的人对文章的理解不知道有没有到五成
最近某个人在搞什么民间杀软测试机构,测试手法看来和文章里所提到的不科学手法似乎没两样...
ykz1991
发表于 2007-4-29 10:00:42 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 solcroft 于 2007-4-29 09:42 发表

... ...
最近某个人在搞什么民间杀软测试机构,测试手法看来和文章里所提到的不科学手法似乎没两样... ...


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