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[技术原创] 对于“误报”的一些思考的总结

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byxxdrls
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发表于 2011-4-4 11:18:21 | 显示全部楼层
回复 99楼 你想怎样 的帖子

你有本事修改这个帖子试试
你想怎样
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byxxdrls 发表于 2011-4-4 11:18
回复 99楼 你想怎样 的帖子

你有本事修改这个帖子试试

你的本事最大
nkspark
 楼主| 发表于 2011-4-4 21:56:03 | 显示全部楼层

楼上的两位同学算了, 不要再在本首席的帖子里吵了. 多大个事啊.

两位比在我帖子里口水的绝大多数同学高明, 这个本首席看得出来的.
nkspark
 楼主| 发表于 2011-4-4 21:59:40 | 显示全部楼层
nkspark 发表于 2011-4-4 10:42
本首席今天本打算好好扒一扒乱弹琴的原创规定, 以本首席精熟的七、八国英语,用英文700词再写一遍本首 ...


本首席本来不想在原创问题上浪费时间, 但本首席的新帖子( 再论“计算机病毒的不可判定性”,http://bbs.kafan.cn/thread-952836-1-1.html),居然又被管理人员从原创改成了分享。让最推崇原创精神的本首席情何以堪?

nkspark
 楼主| 发表于 2011-4-4 22:19:26 | 显示全部楼层
hsgeorge 发表于 2011-4-2 16:18
(7) 原创帖
原创帖需满足以下全部条件:
● 能比较透彻明了的说明问题


让我们来复习一下hsgeorge同学转发的原创贴标准。本首席的帖子满足所有条件暂且不论,我们先来看看这一条:
“● 翻译 700 单词 (含) 以上的技术性内容”;

看完之后,本首席找了半天自己的大牙。别人的东西,拿过来用中文复述一遍,就成了原创了?你让人家原作者情何以堪?翻译就标明是翻译,这是助人为乐,为传播知识做贡献。翻译标成原创,那就是100%的抄袭。

乱弹琴的版规,歪解释的网友,加上不加考虑就改分类的管理员,是不是造成卡饭原创稀少的主要原因?
nkspark
 楼主| 发表于 2011-4-4 22:30:39 | 显示全部楼层
为了满足版规要求的原创性,本首席只好用英文把原贴重写一遍,并尽量凑够700词。不知道这样是否能满足某些网友对原创的严格要求?

Summary of the Thoughts on "False Positives"


Problems originated from the chief to write a small tool (cloud killing the client gadgets, http://bbs.kafan.cn/thread-944466-6-1.html), the chief use of this gadget made of VT some tests (VT false positive test, http://bbs.kafan.cn/thread-948390-1-1.html), and the test area to increase the false positive test proposed recommendations ([recommend comments] proposed increase in this edition false positive test content "http://bbs.kafan.cn/thread-948687-1-1.html).

But it seems that many students do not know much of the problem of false positives.

First, we should see:
1, does not consider false positives, 100% killing rate is very easy to implement;
2, small improvements false alarm rate, can lead to substantially reduce the rate of killing;

For the first argument: does not consider false positives, 100% killing rate is very easy to implement; the chief give a simple example:
Suppose card virus samples of rice bags, 100 sample documents, including 80 normal files, 20 virus files.
Anti-virus companies can achieve a rule of killing 100%, for example, "who are card rice samples of the virus package, are viruses."

Is not that simple, 100% of the killing rate.

For the second point: the false positive rate of small improvements, will lead to substantially reduce the rate of killing;

Something slightly more complicated example:
Suppose card virus samples of rice bags, 100 sample documents, including 80 normal files, 20 virus files. 10 of them the virus file is a regular PE format, 10 virus files are RAR package;
Taking into account the false positive, anti-virus vendors to change the rules to "all belong to the regular card, PE bag rice virus format, are the virus."
This time, click on the killing rate from 100% to 50%.


So here is given of the chief conclusions:
Without considering the case of false positives, simply visit a killing rate of anti-virus product is meaningless.


How to deal with the problem of false positives can be investigated from two angles:
1, from a user perspective, whether there is enough tolerance. In contrast, the domestic users than users of the foreign high tolerance; free user tolerance for paying customers than high.
2, from the firm's perspective, false positive tests is more of a commercial quality anti-virus vendors. Manufacturers may have been irresponsible to promote a high-profile killing rate of false positives indifferent. Responsible manufacturers may consider the user's experience, to bear false positive result in reducing the killing rate of the relatively low ranking pressure.


The Chief of the original post, even by some users do not belong to the original question, and has indeed been turned into a discussion of management personnel. Let the chief is really ridiculous.

A point, there are identified cases, and expansion, a conclusion, fully self-contained one complete original post, renamed the discussion of what? Written discussion of the chief good or bad? Comment on any post will be some people are into the discussion?


Today, intended to take the chief of a Pa Pa Playin the original provisions to the chief mastery of the seven or eight countries in English, 700 English words is again a summary of the chief, then a translator in a floor scale, nature makes those distorts the original provisions of the students to shut up. This is really boring.



The chief did not want to waste time on the original problem, but the chief of the new posts (On "computer virus Undecidability", http://bbs.kafan.cn/thread-952836-1-1.html), actually was again changed managers from the original share. Let the spirit of the most respected of the original principal feel then?

Let's review what the students to forward the original paste hsgeorge standards. The chief's post Putting aside to meet all the conditions, we take a look at this one:
"● Translation of 700 words (or more) of the technical content";

After reading this for a long time to find his chief Daya. Other things, take over the Chinese repeat, it becomes the original? You let people author feel then? Translation to indicate a translation, which is helpful for the dissemination of knowledge to contribute. Translated into the original scale, that is 100% plagiarism.

Playin in the rules for interpretation crooked friends, with no consideration to change the classification of the administrator, is not the cause of rare original cards main meal?

To meet the requirements of the original version of regulation, the chief had to stick with a rewrite of the original English, and lobbied as 700 words. Do not know whether it can meet certain stringent requirements of users on the original?
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听说最近楼主很火,看了几篇,倒是觉得有点意思
nkspark
 楼主| 发表于 2011-4-5 21:39:04 | 显示全部楼层
卍解十字架 发表于 2011-4-4 22:42
听说最近楼主很火,看了几篇,倒是觉得有点意思


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降低1个百分点很简单的……
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