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[转帖] 哈哈,AVC被人骂了(转自ProllBlog)

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发表于 2008-2-14 20:03:19 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
原题:AVC是Crap测试 IBK本人更是菜鸟?
原文:
今天看了Wss上面F-prot的病毒分析员bontchev (AV Expert)和AVC的IBK之间的对话的一部分,发现一点可以爆料的新闻。

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Well, I don't know what exactly was stated. Perhaps I have misunderstood. Perhaps Bryndis was just trying to be polite. In any case, I don't make policy at FRISK - I just work there. (Had I been the one responsible for such a policy, I would have withdrawn our product from your tests even when they were free. It is my firm belief that participating in such low quality tests undermines our credibility. But, hey, that's just me. People who know me personally know that I tend to have a very short fuse and very little tolerance for incompetence and stupidity. Perhaps I'm also a bit biased, given that I was the one who personally had to deal with at least part of the crap you were sending to us as "undetected malware".


I think I already addressed this issue. Yes, a small fee for a testing company with no other revenue is not unreasonable. Your fee is neither small nor reasonable, though. Hell, you ask for a single (incompetent, crappy) test about as much as I make in a year! And you don't have even a minuscule fraction of the knowledge, expertise and aptitude of what takes to be a good AV tester, let alone an AV researcher.



I have never heard of any AV testing entity charging this ridiculous amount of money. I think even the ICSA charge less - and they are well-known in the industry for essentially selling incompetent overpriced "certifications".

But, hey, to each their opinion. I've stated mine. You're welcome to yours. I wish you luck in your endeavor and I am happy than the company I work for is no longer part of it.

Regards,
Vesselin

原文出处:http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=199292&page=6

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我的话:哈哈,早知道AVC不是好鸟儿。因为他老给McAfee打低分,坚决不支持他。呼呼。——个人观点和上述转帖无关,谢谢~~~

[ 本帖最后由 袋鼠吱吱 于 2008-2-14 20:11 编辑 ]
freehuang
发表于 2008-2-14 20:05:49 | 显示全部楼层
瞎看看,凑个热闹
就当狗咬狗
solcroft
发表于 2008-2-14 20:08:34 | 显示全部楼层
bontchev不知道是不是老糊涂了,反正我就把我的回复也贴出来

Looking back at test data, F-Prot has always scored spectacularly well on macro virii, even achieving 100% detection rate during the Febuary 2007 on-demand comparative. If the statement is true that only missed samples are sent to vendors and Frisk have only seen the samples they did not detect, it then must be questioned that, for all his personal insults, whether Mr Bontchev will produce any credible evidence to back his standing, or at least explain this strange logical loophole in his remarks.

My remarks are directed at the person or entity who made them. If those were indeed Mr Bontchev's personal opinions, then I see no need or obligation for Frisk to apologize for them - that responsibility should, as is proper, fall squarely on Mr Bontchev. As the facts stand right now, there seems to be two possibilities. One is that Mr Bontchev is indeed right and the AV-C testbed is full of crap, but if this is true, then F-Prot detected 99-100% of those crap and Mr Bontchev would not possibly be in possession of the evidence that he claims his stand was based on. The second possibility, which seems far more likely to me, is that Mr Bontchev was not making very good use of his supposedly superior intellect as he delivered his barrage of personal disparagements at IBK, which contained more holes than President Bush's patriotic war speeches, and in the end turned out to be just as laughable.

[ 本帖最后由 solcroft 于 2008-2-14 21:39 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-2-14 20:14:11 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 solcroft 于 2008-2-14 20:08 发表
bontchev不知道是不是老糊涂了,反正我就把我的回复也贴出来

Looking back at test data, F-Prot has always scored spectacularly well on macro virii, even achieving 100% detection rate during the Febuary ...

哈哈,有趣儿。也支持你的观点。

我的观点是:哪个测试给McAfee得高分,哪个就是好测试——结果是到现在没几个测试McAfee是有好结果的,心痛的感觉
apje
发表于 2008-2-14 20:20:27 | 显示全部楼层
小红伞只是靠特征码查毒的,怎么跟得上新木马呢?

唉...所以 懂得欣赏咖啡的评测才是好!! 我也同意上楼这点,
woai_jolin
发表于 2008-2-14 20:36:34 | 显示全部楼层
这个分析师不喜欢AV的测试
大概看了一下 以我初三的水准来说
我的评价是己所不欲勿施于人
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己所欲之 慎施于人
ykz1991
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八杆子打不着的事儿
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-2-14 22:02:55 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 apje 于 2008-2-14 20:20 发表
小红伞只是靠特征码查毒的,怎么跟得上新木马呢?

唉...所以 懂得欣赏咖啡的评测才是好!! 我也同意上楼这点,

太好了,知音啊,不过我是开玩笑的 我觉得哪个测评都参考一下就好了。最关键还是自己用的感觉。
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-2-14 22:06:55 | 显示全部楼层
这个分析师其实是在向AVC传达一个信号:现在虽然猪肉和方便面都涨价了,但你贵得太离谱,就有物价部门来管了。
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